Tuesday, July 17, 2007

Dont Laff, You're Next !!

from HERE : http://www.sptimes.com/2007/07/17/Business/Cigarmakers_in_a_pani.shtml


Cigarmakers in a panic
The federal tax on each cigar could rise from 5 cents to $10.
By JAMES THORNER
Published July 17, 2007





Eric Newman punches the numbers on his calculator and gapes at the results one more time.

It's no mathematical error: The federal government has proposed raising taxes on premium cigars, the kind Newman's family has been rolling for decades in Ybor City, by as much as 20,000 percent.

As part of an increase in tobacco taxes designed to pay for children's health insurance, the nickel-per-cigar tax that has ruled the industry could rise to as much as $10 per cigar.

"I'm not sure in the history of man, since our forefathers founded the country in 1776, that there's ever been a tax increase of 20,000 percent," said Newman, who runs the Tampa business founded by grandfather Julius Caesar Newman. "They had the Boston Tea Party for less than this."

When it comes to tobacco sales, cigars are just a speck compared to cigarettes. In 2006, the nearly 400-billion cigarettes sold domestically dwarfed the 5.3-billion cigars.

But cigars are intertwined with Tampa's lineage.

Though the local industry has shriveled from foreign competition and domestic consolidation, cigarmaking still employs more than 1,000 in Tampa. About 900 work at the factory, offices and warehouse of Hav-a-Tampa, owned by foreign tobacco giant Altadis.

Newman machine-makes 35,000 cigars a day at 16th Street and Columbus Avenue and imports hand-wrapped varieties from Latin America. He estimates Florida makes or imports 80 percent of the cigars consumed in the United States and predicts devastation if the new taxes are approved this summer.

Many casual smokers are well heeled enough to plunk down $10 for a premium puff. But would they pay $15 to $20 for the same pleasure?

"Why don't we just go out of business?" Newman said. "Here, you can run our company, Mr. Government."

Here's the source of the controversy: The Democrat controlled Congress has sought an extra $35-billion to $50-billion for the state children's health insurance program. The program distributes payments to the states to help buy coverage for kids not poor enough for Medicaid.

Cigarettes, which accounted for more than 95 percent of tobacco tax collections last year, are the main focus of the bill. Federal taxes on a pack would jump from 39 cents to $1.

But the legislation has dragged cigars along for the ride. The industry operates under a 4.8 cents-per-cigar tax cap.

Under the proposed bill, taxes on "large cigars," a category that includes all but the tiny cigars sold in 20 packs like cigarettes, would rise to 53 percent.

A U.S. Senate version of the bill under consideration today in the Finance Committee sets the maximum tax per cigar at $10.

"We are a very small industry. We're the fly. The cigarette industry is the elephant as far as tax collections are concerned," Newman said. "We've been roped in with conglomerates that own cigarette companies."

Newman's eyes and ears in Washington, Norm Sharp, president of the Cigar Association of America, was dumbfounded when the legislation went public Friday.

"I thought there was a typo. I thought they meant 10 cents per cigar, not $10 per cigar. I was stunned like everyone else," Sharp said.

Sharp's organization represents 66 members, including Newman, Altadis and Jacksonville's Swisher International, the global company that makes Swisher Sweets.

The association has lobbied to exclude cigars from the bill, but bristles at the public relations challenge: How do you oppose a sin tax Congress has rigged to help sick kids? Senate staffers couldn't be reached for comment.

In Newman's view other companies declined comment and left the talking to Sharp, it's not just unfair but also immoral to overtax a product enjoyed not by addicts but by worthy pleasure seekers. The average aficionado smokes about three cigars a week at about $3 to $5 apiece, according to the cigar association.

"A good wine. A good scotch. A good bourbon. A good cigar. It all enhances the quality of life," Newman said. "We're in the relaxation business."

The Bush administration may inadvertently come to the industry's aid. The president has vowed to veto the bill, not over the cigar provision but over objections to expanding federally financed health care for the non-indigent.

Several business in and around Ybor City, usually blind to the workings of Washington, will be craning their necks toward the capital.

"Things happen strangely in Washington," Newman said.




comment: So, G.W. is gonna veto this POS, but what happens in '09 or '10 when the (D)s have all the power they need and a list as-long-as-your-arm of other thangs they wanna tax ??

Earlier this year I put a note out at a place I thought I might find somebody willin to help me get some tabakker seeds, and sure-nuff, a fine fella stepped up to the task and I now have a small sack of a shit-load of tabakker seeds.. GOOD seeds too !! I sure am grateful to that kind man that showed pity on me in my time of want..

I'm perty sure that there was some that saw my note and wondered just what kinda person would be wantin tabakker seeds in this day and age..

Truth is, the writin has been on the walls for a long while now, and it just keeps gettin bigger !! The sadder truth, is that there are a whole bunch of other stuff on that same list too, and before Big Gubmint gets all of your money they want, you are gonna be doin without a whole lot of shit that you are no longer gonna be able to afford !! DIDJA HEAR ME ?? I said, DOIN WITHOUT, unless you also see that writin on the wall and make arrangements for a source other than the one you rely on now..

Do ya'll like to have a little smear of honey on your bisquit ?? Have you priced honey lately ??

The Kid LOVES juice, and the Mrs. had her Miss Vickies all twisted and knotted this mornin cause those little cans of OJ was ON SALE in the add for $1.29 a can.. Aint been all THAT long since I was fussin bout how many of those same cans of OJ there were in the fridge in the way, and she said they were on sale for 69 cents a piece and she couldnt resist that price..

What if the (D)s hit you with this kind of tax on your favorite after shave of parfum ?? Your bath soap ?? How bout tea, coffee, milk, or (please help me) coldbeer ??

Just take a look around you and imagine what is gonna be on the list they will jack-up the tax on when there aint gonna be anybody to veto it, and in fact, will be the Ringleader of the bunch plannin on ROBBIN YOU ..

Somebody refresh my memory a little, but, wadnt it Jim Stafford that sang the song "The Wildwood Flower" ?? Talkin bout sittin there on that sacka seeds !! But it was Bocephus that sang bout "A Country Boy Can Survive" ..

My PECKERWOOD liberal brother in the Big City is gonna have his fat ass draw up so tight you wouldnt be able to drive a 16penny nail up it with a 2LB shop hammer when he sees this ceegar tax !!

4 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I tell you, I just feel like swearing up a storm right now.

First, I am not giving up hope that the dimmocrats will not become the majority and have a sitting president as well.

When in the hell is this going to end? Why are we allowing taxation without representation?

You're a smart guy, WB. Me, I'm going to have to pay the tax.

I tell you, the true meaning of the 2nd Amendment becomes clearer by the day.

6:09 PM, July 17, 2007  
Blogger Wild Bill said...

Girl, I saw the new pics of you over at the Rider's Site, and you should have you a sweet Sugar Daddy out there and not have to worry bout the price of nothin..

But I just dont know how much longer the voters will keep on eatin the (D)s bullshit and votin for em when there is so much of this same thang happenin and its closin in on everybody that buys anythang..

There is a large number of actual Workin People out there that still vote for the (D)s even knowin that they are steadily given away their money that is deducted from their paychecks and what they send in in April, to the people that wouldnt work even if they could and had the chance to have a good job with good benefits and the potential to be HIGH WAGE earners.. They dont wanna RISK IT..

Today, even MODEST wage earners have a lower Standard of Livin than some that rely on a Gubmint Check and Benefits !! Some here have people hired to come clean their house, wash their dishes and laundry, give em a health check up, two or three times a week and free taxi service, and access to the food bank, and Meals-On-Wheels that brang their prepared meals right to their table DAILY.. They aint gonna risk that by takin a job somewhere !!

This is a perpetual, ever LARGER problem that is gonna ruin us !!

9:26 PM, July 17, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see Congress' rating is 14 today. Perhaps people are starting to wise up, WB? I'm with you, I cannot fathom how anyone can vote the "D" card whatsoever. Of course, the way the Republicans are going, I'll wonder the same about anyone that votes for them!!!

Thank you for the compliment. Unfortunately I'm a smoker and this is California!! Also being California, men in my age group go after the younger women! Plus I'm an independent and feisty old broad who doesn't take shit from anyone! Can't play the little woman act, you know, WB?!!

3:59 PM, July 18, 2007  
Blogger Wild Bill said...

I got news for people, Cheryl.. Those young girls are OVER-RATED !!

Give me a feisty old broad that is set in her ways ANY DAY .. You can count on them to be what they ARE, today, tomoro, and for a long long time, but them young ones tend to change when they get a hook in ya, and then they seem to thank YOU need to change too !!

But the (D)s are havin a helluva "identity crisis" .. The spread between the "Blue Dogs" and the Kos Kids is so far and wide, they may not have any chance to close the gap come votin time..

Aint NO WAY the Blue Dogs are gonna follow Obama or The Hildebeast, and the closest they can come to another Blue Dog is a Rudy(R) or a Mitt(R).. The middle-of-the-raod (D)s are gonna be all for The Hildebeast and the far left are gonna be for Bobama..

But anybody that is gonna come out on top of the (D)s is gonna be Tax an Spend to the hilt, and people just caint afford that anymore, (D) or (R).. Even the Minimum Wage hike that just hit is already havin its evil side come out and people aint likin it very much either, and that was one of the thangs the (D)s were all slappin each others backs over.. So one of the VERY FEW accomplishments that they thought they could tout is turnin to shit in a hurry !!

The more the (D)s try to do, the bigger hole they dig themselves, so it looks to me like what the talkin heads said might happen is maybe comin true.. They said if America got a good taste of the (D)s in power before the '08 Elections, they may change their minds about em havin the whole ball of wax and the White House too..

With the numbers lookin so bad for any of em that are in office now, which The Hildebeast and Bobama are, that makes it even better for the ones on the "outside" right now, like Fred and Rudy and Mitt.. They have a record to look back on but no dirt in their RECENT past to connect em to what is there now..

One thang is for DAMN SURE tho, with it bein Bush-Clinton-Bush already havin been in the White House, that taste in peoples mouth is gonna make em back off and thank a minute before they pull the lever to put a Clinton back in there again..

The money that has been pourin in to Bobama shows how much they dont want The Hildebeast in there, but I just caint invision more than half the U.S. Population votin for Bobama.. The "Third Party" is gonna tell-the-tell again this time, like it did with Ross Perot..

5:25 PM, July 18, 2007  

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